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Christmas Lake Village
Board of Directors
Scheduled Meeting time
(2nd Thursday each month) 6pm CST
812-544-2234
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December 9, 2004 - CLV Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
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December 9, 2004 -
Managers Attachment to the Meeting Minutes
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December 9, 2004 - Managers
Report
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November 11, 2004 - CLV Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
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November 11, 2004 -
Managers Attachment to the Meeting Minutes
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October 14,
2004 - CLV Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
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October, 14, 2004 -
Managers Attachment to the Minutes
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September 9, 2004 - CLV Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
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September 9, 2004 - Managers Attachment to the Minutes
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August 17, 2004 - 2nd Special Board Meeting
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August 17, 2004 - 1st Special Board Meeting
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August
12, 2004 - CLV Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
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August 12, 2004 - Managers Attachment to the Minutes
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Engineering Study
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Drainage Update
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August 2, 2004 - Special Board Meeting
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Christmas Lake Village Board of Directors Meeting
December 09, 2004
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 PM by President Van Winkle.
He noted that a quorum was present and that the meeting was being
taped.
Present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach, Rose Gifford, Jo Nance,
Milton Pledger, Chris Sigler, Ken Van Winkle, and Don Vogel.
Elva Scholebo was absent.
MINUTES- The minutes from the November 2004 meeting were presented
for approval. Rose Gifford asked about the Association being
$1500.00 over on budgeted income for 2004, but showing less total
income than in 2003. It was explained that budgeted income in 2003
was different than in 2004. After receiving her answer, Rose moved
to accept the minutes as presented. The minutes were passed
unanimously, after a second by Chris Sigler.
OWNERS FORUM- See Manager’s Attachment
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- See Manager’s Attachment
TREASURER’S REPORT- Manager Kroeger gave the Treasurer’s Report in
Elva Scholebo’s absence. He reported that income to date was
$650,542.00 compared to $658,782.00 in 2003. He noted that 2004
income to date is roughly $17,000.00 over expected income. 99% of
the budgeted maintenance fee has been received. He also noted that
past due maintenance fees received were more than $10,000.00 higher
than budgeted.
Expenses to date in 2004 are $462,816.00 compared to $442,737.00 in
2003. The road paving bill was paid in early December so has yet to
appear on the budget statement.
He gave the delinquent report:
Amount delinquent 12/2004 $148,763.00 (includes 15,128.00 Wahl)
Amount delinquent 11/2004 $160,175.00 (Includes 21,980 LILCO and
Wahl)
Outstanding under $600.00 $27,733.00 (19%) (previous two years)
Outstanding $600.00-900.00 $47,635.00 (32%) reflects 3 years
delinquent)
Outstanding over $1,000.00 $73,395.00 (49%) reflects in excess of
three years delinquent) Includes Wahl Group $15,128.00)
Quantity of lots Delinquent 167 (171 in 11/04)
Manager Kroeger reported that the Association had negotiated an
agreement with LILCO, that a check had been received, and this
closed the LILCO issue. He went on to say that our attorney is
searching for an attorney in Texas who will enforce our judgement
against Wahl Group there.
He had also spoken with the collection agency, and was preparing to
send numerous accounts to them. He was advised by the collection
agency to file liens on any properties that were delinquent and
under a lien provision.
Manager Kroeger then noted that he was expecting a budget excess of
some $26,000.00. This was predicated on spending an additional
$15,000.00 on drainage before the end of the year. He had spoken to
our accountants who indicated that our tax liability on this amount
was negligible. Manager Kroeger was advised to watch this closely
over the next two weeks. If that amount were to increase, we need to
look into buying something from the 2005 budget this year.
President Van Winkle requested that the January Delinquent Report be
submitted in a graph format.
Norm Gerlach moved to accept the report as submitted. Don Vogel
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
MANAGER’S REPORT- See Manager’s Attachment
OLD BUSINESS
Polar Shores Drainage- See Manager’s Attachment
Collection Procedures- See Manager’s Attachment
Employee Benefits- See Manager’s Attachment
Culvert Inspection Program- See Manager’s Attachment
NEW BUSINESS
Job Descriptions- On behalf of the Personnel Committee, Rose Gifford
passed out copies of the proposed job descriptions for the Property
Manager, Newsletter Editor, Webmaster, and Activities Director.
After review, Keith Blair suggested that the Property Manager’s
description should include maintaining and updating an employee
manual that each employee signs. Norm Gerlach moved to adopt the
descriptions including the amendment by Keith Blair. Chris Sigler
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Budget Committee-none
Roads Committee-none
Nomination Committee-none
Rules and Regulations- Norm Gerlach recapped the meeting that had
been held with landlords of rental homes in the Village. It had been
a productive and informative meeting. Manager Kroeger had mailed a
recap of the meeting to all the landlords. He was asked to e-mail
the recap to the Directors for their information/review. Norm passed
out a list of ideas for rules and regulations regarding rental
properties. This was for informational purposes only at this time.
The committee is to review the ideas for possible proposal at some
time.
Norm also requested that the effective date of the revised Building
Guidelines which had been approved at the November meeting for
December 1, 2004, be pushed back to January 1, 2005 as the
notification of change had not yet been distributed. The Board
agreed to this change. A letter was to go out on December 14, 2004.
Manager Kroeger was also directed to advise architect Gerald Huber
of the changes.
Covenants & Restrictions- Don Vogel stated he had checked with the
county attorney, discussing the need to have individual votes for
the Covenants and Restrictions notarized. He reported that
individual votes do not need to be notarized, just the final
document. He recommends that we assemble and send a new, simplified
voting/informational package to those who have not voted. Don will
spearhead this effort which will begin in January 2005.
Personnel Committee- See New Business
By Laws Committee- None
The meeting adjourned at 9:20 PM on a motion by Rose Gifford and a
second by Don Vogel.
Manager’s Attachment To The Minutes
12/9/04
OWNER’S FORUM- Gary Hohl and son Zach were on hand to observe the
proceedings.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- Manager Kroeger reported on the November 15th
Town Council Meeting. A representative from Perry Spencer
Communications informed the Council that his company was interested
in providing an agreement to supply Santa Claus with a new cable
type service along with it’s telephone and internet services. The
Town attorney was instructed to review the agreement.
Lisa O’Brien reported that the new siding on the Community Center
was to be installed the following week. Yellig Park is shut down for
the winter. She also reported that they had received a part of some
requested grant money. The Park Board had decided to hold those
monies and reapply in 2005.
Legal action is pending on the “log cabin” property opposite highway
162 from Holiday World.
Fire Chief Ed Hagedorn reported that Midwestern Engineers is working
on a plan for a new Fire Station.
Town Marshall Joey Brown reported that he was interviewing deputies
and that the county Animal Control Board was working on an animal
shelter. The Town of Santa Claus has budgeted $1800.00 toward the
shelter.
The Town approved a bid from Frederick’s Sheet Metal to maintain
their air conditioners.
Manager Kroeger asked the council why they had picked the proposed
location for the new fire station and if the Town had the ability to
use the right of eminent domain. The reply was that many options
were tried for ground for the fire station, and this is what was
available, and that yes, the Town has the right of eminent domain.
Manager Kroeger reported to the CLV Board that approximately 25% of
fire department emergencies in 2004 were in CLV.
There was some discussion on part of the CLV Board about the price
of Santa Claus water/sewer service and concern voiced over the
Town’s projected expenditures to bring in more water. Some debate
occurred whether or not the Board, as a body, should get involved in
this issue. Manager Kroeger was directed to find out term length and
limits for Town Council members.
MANAGER’S REPORT
Kostuck Update- A sheriff’s sale on the house on Tinsel Circle is
scheduled for January 21, 2005. The Association will be there to
place a bid. Manager Kroeger read a synopsis of what we can expect
in this procedure from Attorney Cissna. He was instructed to contact
the attorney regards a clear title for this property.
South Melchior Culvert Replacement-We are still working with Bowen
Engineering on a drainage concern on South Melchior Drive. Manager
Kroeger expressed some aggravation at the delays. Three excavators
had been invited to a site meeting regards this project, but only
one was present. Options are still being reviewed, with the hope of
bidding prior to year’s end. Bowen assures us there is no danger to
the roadbed.
Leaves/IDEM- The Association vacuumed nearly 200 tons of leaves this
fall. An IDEM issue regarding the collection of leaves has been
resolved. The Association is exempt from registering as a composting
facility.
Festival of Lights Update-Everything seems to be in order for the
upcoming Festival. The Association has some new displays. Marsha
Hicks has been a driving force through the CLV Garden Club, to help
rejuvenate the Festival. He reported that the judging would be held
on Friday, the 10th at 5:00PM. President Van Winkle requested that
his home be included in the judging.
Webmaster- A webmaster has been hired to handle the Village’s
Website.
Community Associations Institute- Manager Kroeger reported that he
has signed up for an online course to upgrade/update his knowledge
and skills.
Manager Kroeger was requested to follow up on and dates and times
that the Food Network would be airing some programs which include
Santa Claus. He was instructed to advertise this information on the
website and marquee.
OLD BUSINESS-
Polar Shores Drainage- New options had been received from Midwestern
Engineers. These were reviewed. Manager Kroeger reported that he had
made some headway into the possibility of acquiring lots, but
several were still unresolved. He was instructed to contact the
county attorney regards the procedures required to acquire a county
owned lot. He was also to draft another letter to a property owner
who has not responded, sending it certified mail. He was directed to
make bid sheets from the Midwestern Engineers suggestions, and send
them to the directors for review. An executive meeting was scheduled
for December20th at 5:00 PM.
Collection Procedures- Manager Kroeger passed out a copy of the
proposed collection procedure, including action dates, for final
review. After review, the Board
voiced its approval. No actual vote was taken.
Employee Benefits- At the November Board meeting, Manager Kroeger
had been instructed to explore how our employee benefits compare to
what is “out there”. He presented a synopsis of a report from the
U.S. Department of Labor that suggested our benefits, for the most
part, are comparable to the national averages. Some places we tend a
little to the high end, and some places we tend a little to the low.
This was an informational report. He was directed to share this
information with our staff.
Culvert Inspection Program- Manager Kroeger presented the documented
culvert inspection program and procedure for review. The Board was
agreeable to the process, although no formal vote was taken. He was
asked to post the procedure on the website and include a glossary of
terms.
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Christmas Lake Village - Board Meeting Minutes
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 PM by President Ken Van
Winkle . He noted that there was a quorum, and that the meeting was
being taped.
Directors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach , Rose Gifford,
Elva Scholebo , Ken Van Winkle , and Don Vogel.
Jo Nance , Milton Pledger , and Chris Sigler were absent.
MINUTES- The minutes from the October meeting were reviewed. Don
Vogel made a motion to accept the minutes as submitted. The motion
was seconded by Elva Scholebo and passed unanimously.
TREASURER'S REPORT- Elva Scholebo reported that finances looked
straight forward and that there was nothing outstanding or unusual.
Elva stated that year to date revenue was $635,167.00 (about
$1500.00 over budgeted income) and that income to this date in 2003
was $648,400.00. Expenses were also in-line with $412,800.00 spent
to date compared to $412,600.00 spent to date last year. She did
note that price of the leaf vacuum was included in the “unbudgeted”
accounting for maintenance. It was also noted that the road work and
striping were complete and that bills for these are expected at
anytime.
She submitted the delinquent report which showed:
Amount Delinquent 11/2004 $160,175.00 (Includes 21,980 Wahl & LILCO)
Amount delinquent 10/2004 $161,695.00 (Includes 21,980 Wahl & LILCO)
Outstanding under $600.00 $28,434.00 (18 %) (previous two years)
Outstanding $600.00 -$1000.00 $448,556.00 ( 30 %) (reflects 3 years
delinquent)
Outstanding over $1000.00 $83,185.00 ( 52% ) (reflects in excess of
three years delinquent, Includes LILCO $6852.00 and Wahl Group
$15,128.00)
There being no questions, Elva moved to accept the report as
submitted. This was seconded by Don Vogel and passed unanimously.
OWNERS FORUM- Nicki Nelson (See Manager's Attachment)
Wayne & Val Kessens - Attended the meeting in order to review the
events that caused the delayed completion of their new Village home,
and to request the refund of their deposit. They explained that
their first contractor walked out on the job, and the second
contractor was unable to start for nearly 6 months after that. There
were several other weather and builder related delays. The house is
now completely finished and fully landscaped. After listening to the
situation, and asking a few questions, Don Vogel moved to refund the
Kessen's refund in full. Elva Scholebo seconded the motion, which
passed unanimously.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- See Manager's Attachment
MANAGER'S REPORT- See Manager's Attachment
OLD BUSINESS- See Manager's Attachment
NEW BUSINESS- See Manager's Attachment
RULES & REGULATIONS COMMITTEE- Norm Gerlach reported on some changes
to the Building Guidelines that had been suggested by the committee
since the last Board Meeting. The recommendations pertain to
Covenant and Restriction building guidelines, use of vinyl siding,
lawn sheds, and molded tool and toy boxes. Norm Gerlach moved to
accept the new building guidelines as revised. Then, after being
questioned for moving on his own document, Norm withdrew his motion.
At that time, Elva Scholebo moved to accept the building guidelines
as amended. Keith Blair seconded the motion. Don Vogel asked what
the effective date of the new building guidelines would be. The
motion was amended to designate December 1, 2004 as the effective
date. At this time, the motion passed unanimously. Manager Kroeger
and Norm Gerlach were to get together to create the new document and
set up a meeting with CLV builders.
After a motion by Elva Scholebo , and a second by Rose Gifford, the
meeting was adjourned at 9:20 PM.
Manager's Attachment To The Minutes
November 11, 2004
OWNER'S FORUM- Nicki Nelson was on and recap the Tour of Homes
from the preceding Saturday. Nicki reported that approximately 400
people had taken the tour, and that there were no resident
complaints that she was aware of. She thanked the Board for
approving the event and the Association for loaning the use of the
traffic vests and the orange directional arrows.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE-There being no town representative, Manager
Kroeger updated some items from the town meeting he had attended.
The Council approved $5,000.00 to Midwestern Engineers for
preliminary work on a new Fire Station which is expected to be built
across from Yellig Park. The Council also approved $11,500.00 for
Capital Engineers to complete a preliminary engineering report on
the water field near Grandview. This is anticipation of the
possibility of piping this water to Santa Claus. Bids for Air
Conditioning maintenance were reviewed.
There was some concern from the CLV Board that the fire station was
moving farther from the center of Town residency. Manager Kroeger
was instructed to talk to the Council about this at their next
meeting.
MANAGER'S REPORT- Manager Kroeger reported the following:
• Festival of Lights decorating seems to be going well. The CLV
staff is involved and he has seen a lot of neighborhood work in
progress as well.
• Bowen Engineering was unable to deliver a scope of work for the
South Melchior Drive culverts by the meeting (11/11) but promised to
have the report in our hands by 11/17. Although they did not want to
bid, they offered their services in whatever other capacities we may
need. Bowen says the road is NOT in danger of collapse.
• Jennifer Mayhall has been hired as the CLV Newsletter editor.
Jennifer has newspaper background and is highly motivated and
outgoing. She will work closely with Manager Kroeger and the
Webmaster.
• He is very close to hiring a Webmaster. A second interview is
scheduled for 11/12/04 AM.
• A meeting with CLV members who are also landlords for Village
homes has been scheduled for the 18 th of November. All landlords
have been invited to the meeting. A letter recapping the meeting
will be sent to those who do not attend. The meeting was prompted by
recent events that included legal action against a landlord and
tenant. The Association is trying to prevent this situation in the
future.
• A Christmas Bonus for employees was Ok'd .
• He had made some progress on a benchmark for employee benefits. A
full report would be made at the December meeting.
• Over 100 TONS of leaves have been vacuumed so far. He went on to
say that he had been contacted by an attorney saying that the
Association may be in violation of some IDEM restrictions for
composting facilities. He has received the IDEM application for such
a facility and will submit it for approval.
• 17 names for the leaf vacuum were submitted. After some discussion
and voting, “Kringle Kruncher” was declared the name of the new leaf
vac . Congratulations to Jackie Miller for her entry.
• The last bit of the Kostuck situation is still up in the air. We
are trying to rectify one more abnormality. Manager Kroeger
expressed his frustration with this situation, in that little has
changed in the last few months. He was instructed to allow the
attorney 30 more days to make progress or change attorneys.
President Van Winkle asked about the situation with the driveway
culvert inspections and door tags. Manager Kroeger reported that
although several hundred tags could have been issued, only a few, on
the very worst situations, were distributed. Some were immediately
rectified. Others have been ignored to date, and a call or two was
received asking questions about the situation. Although the staff
had been trained on the program, it has not been documented to
paper. Manager Kroeger said it would be on paper prior to the next
Board meeting. Don Vogel stated that he thought that sending a few
of the tags was a good test of how the program might be generally
received. He also thought that the tag system could be used by all
employees for any violations, not just culvert issues. Manager
Kroeger said that for the time being he was using an interim tag but
that he had been in contact with our printer regards an official
door tag.
OLD BUSINESS
COLLECTIONS UPDATE- Manager Kroeger reported that some 58 final
notices were sent to delinquent members. In the week or so since the
mailing, 3 accounts had been paid, and several calls had been
received saying that payment was not possible. Some callers had
asked if a payment plan could be worked out. He was instructed to
wait until November 22, 2004. At that time anything left unpaid, or
not having an approved payment plan should be sent to the collection
agency.
Manager Kroeger then asked about how to proceed in the LILCO
delinquency case. A counteroffer had been received from LILCO's
attorney. Manager Kroeger was instructed to contact our attorney,
asking for reduced legal charges if we were to settle out of court
for less than the total amount.
There has been no further information regarding the Wahl Group
collection effort.
POLAR SHORES DRAINAGE UPDATE- Mike Mathias and Derek Wiggins of
Midwestern Engineers were on hand to discuss, review, and explain
the updated drainage survey for Polar Shores Addition. Three primary
recommendations were made.
• Either increase the size of the culverts/ditches along the East
side of Star Drive (lot 232 South to south side of Sleigh Bell Dr)
OR obtain lots 228-231 and install a retention pond with a
specifically metered release rate.
• Install an earthen swale along the east property line of lots
216-222. This swale would go around lot 216 and escape under Sleigh
Bell Drive.
• Increase the quantity and size of the culverts in the area of
Tinsel and Madonna allowing water under the roads rather than
crossing over and inundating lot number 190.
Discussion followed about the possibility of keeping all water from
the east side of Winter Dr. from being released to the west,
retention ponds along Tinsel Drive, North of Madonna, moving water
from the East side of Madonna Drive to the west side, and other
ideas.
Mike Mathias explained how they had determined their unit pricing
and that they had used INDOT rates in some applications.
Midwestern is to revisit the detention pond on Tinsel Circle
question and complete a little more fine tuning and then return to
the December Board meeting.
Manager Kroeger is to pursue obtaining the lots that would be
required for retention ponds.
COVENANTS & RESTRICTIONS UPDATE- Don Vogel reported that, to date,
he had not been able to set up a meeting with Attorney Patmore . He
would try again in the coming week. Don is to report back at the
December meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
BACK YARD FIRE PITS- Manager Kroeger reported that he had been
advised of residents using portable back yard fire pits
irresponsibly. The Board reminds all who use fire pits of any kind
to use them responsibly. This includes monitoring the weather
conditions and the size of the fire. Burning of trash is not
allowed.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
BUDGET-NONE
ROADS- The 2004 roadwork and striping are complete.
NOMINATIONS- None
COVENANTS & RESTRICTIONS-NONE
PERSONNEL- A meeting of the committee is scheduled for Wednesday,
November 17, 2004 at 5:00 PM to review proposed job descriptions.
The job descriptions to be ready by the end of the month for
distribution to the directors with formal review at the December
meeting.
BY-LAWS- NONE
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Minutes Christmas Lake Village Board Of Directors
October 14, 2004
The meeting was called to order @ 6:00 PM by
President Ken VanWinkle.
He noted that there was a quorum and that the
meeting was being taped.
Directors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach ,
Rose Gifford, Jo Nance , Milton Pledger , Chris Sigler , Ken
VanWinkle , and Don Vogel.
Elva Scholebo was absent.
MINUTES- The minutes from the September Board
Meeting were reviewed. Don Vogel moved to accept the minutes as
submitted. After a second by Norm Gerlach , the minutes were
unanimously approved.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- See Manager's Attachment
TREASURER'S REPORT- In the absence of Elva Scholebo
, Manager Kroeger gave the Treasurer's Report. He noted that 2004
income to date was $626,466.00, compared to $637,000.00 last year at
this time. Total expenses 2004 to date are $357,000.00 compared to
$367,000.00 in 2003. We are only 1% below our budgeted income for
the year. Bills for storage space renewals are out now, and we have
just finished the last lot mowing for the season.
He went on to submit the Delinquent Report which
showed the amount delinquent in 10/04 was 161,695.00 (includes
21,980 LILCO & Wahl )
The amount delinquent on 9/04 was 157,934 (includes 21,980 LILCO &
Wahl ) The amount outstanding under $600.00 is $28,801.00 (18% of
total)
The outstanding amount between $600.00 and 1000.00 is $48,556.00
(30% of total) The amount outstanding over $1,000.00 is
$84,328.00 (52% of total) There are 171 delinquent lots (180
in 9/04)
Manager Kroeger explained that he and the office
staff were handling the delinquent report in a new way. He noted
that there were some discrepancies from last month, but he was
confident that the current numbers were correct.
Manager Kroeger stated that the final delinquent
notice had been composed and was ready to be sent out. Those not
paying in 15 days would be sent to our collection agency. The Board
requested that delinquent letters not go to the 1 st and 2 nd
neighborhoods at this point.
The Wahl Investment delinquency trial was held in October 12 th in
the Spencer Circuit Court. The Association won a default judgement
for the money owed ($15,000.00). We will be trying to collect
through an attorney in Texas where this company is located.
Norm Gerlach suggested that we review the disposition of monies
recently deposited into a Money Market account at Old National Bank.
The Board also approved a suggestion to place a counter offer to
LILCO regarding their offer to settle out of court on delinquent
assessments. LILCO had offered $3000.00 to settle their account of
nearly $7,000.00. The Board approved a counter offer of $4500.00
plus legal costs to date of some $2100.00. The total to be $6824.03.
Manager Kroeger was directed to pass this information on to attorney
Sharon Bohnenkemper .
Don Vogel's motion to accept the Treasurer's Report as submitted was
seconded by Rose Gifford and passed unanimously.
OWNER'S FORUM- See Manager's Attachment
OLD BUSINESS- Collections, 1 st and 2 nd Neighborhoods. Director
Keith Blair stated that he had spoken with Attorney Kevin Patmore
about the possibility of meetin with the Board in Executive Session
to discuss some of the issues surrounding the adoption of the
proposed Covenants and Restrictions. Keith thinks that such a dialog
would be beneficial. Don Vogel agreed that a meeting could be
beneficial, especially as it appears that some of the sticking
points are minor. Don then made a motion to hold an executive
meeting with Attorney Patmore on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 at 7:00
PM pending availability of Mr. Patmore . Norm Gerlach seconded the
motion. Chris Sigler wanted to know if we were giving in or
compromising. The motion was passed unanimously.
Polar Shores Addition Drainage Update - Manager Kroeger reported
that he had spoken to Mike Mathias of Midwestern Engineers within
the last 48 hours. Mike stated that they were actively working on
the report and that they had received our signal loud and clear.
They were trying to complete the report prior to mid November.
Festival of Lights - Manager Kroeger noted that the activity as
reported from some of the neighborhoods was very promising. Most had
had two or three meetings and were actively working on new displays.
There was talk about singers, carolers, and activities at the Rec
Center. It was suggested that we create in/out lanes for traffic at
the Rec Center. Norm Gerlach asked if there was any money to be
contributed to the neighborhoods. After some discussion, Ken
VanWinkle stated that he would not be in favor of charging an entry
fee or giving money to neighborhoods. There was no further
discussion.
NEW BUSINESS- Yard Sale Review See Manager's Attachment
Employee Benefits - See Manager's Attachment
Rules and Regulations Update - As chair of the Rules And Regulations
Committee, Norm Gerlach submitted the proposed Rec Center rules for
2005. Norm stepped through the proposed changes which were in bold
print on the proposal. There being no discussion, Chris Sigler moved
to approve the proposed 2005 Rec Center Rules as presented. The
motion passed unanimously after a 2 nd by Don Vogel. The new rules
become effective January 1, 2005.
Norm Gerlach then submitted the proposed Lake Rules for 2005. Again,
the proposed changes were shown in bold print. Most of the changes
were accepted, but it was suggested to delete item 17 on page 6, and
to increase the boat dock fee from $35.00 to $40.00. Keith Blair
moved to accept the proposed lake rules as amended. The motion was
seconded by Jo Nance and passed unanimously. The new lake rules will
become effective January 1, 2005.
Norm then moved on to the proposed Building Guidelines. Several
changes and suggestions had been proposed during their committee
meeting. Some questions about the proposal were raised, and it was
suggested that the proposal go back to the committee to look into
these questions. This item to be included on the November agenda.
2005 Budget - The proposed budget for 2005 had been distributed to
the Directors via e-mail previous to the meeting. The Directors had
been invited to voice their comments or questions at the time. Don
Vogel asked if there had been consideration of adding an upstairs
restroom to the Recreation Center. The committee replied that the
additon Don asked about would likely be budgeted in 2006. The only
outstanding question was the Manager's salary. Manager Kroeger was
asked to leave the room while this was discussed. After the
discussion, Don Vogel moved to accept the proposed budget as
submitted, with the manager's salary as discussed. Keith Blair
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The 2005 assessment
will increase only 3% ($9.00) to $302.00.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
• Budget Committee – See above
• Roads Committee – Manager Kroeger reported on behalf of the road
committee. Rudolph is finishing up the 2004 road paving and
repairing.
• Nomination Committee-None
• Rules and Regulations Committee- See above
• Covenants and Restrictions – None, although Don Vogel stated that
he thought it would be a good idea for the manager, and at least one
director to meet with Village landlords to discuss the condition of
their rental properties. This will be set up.
• Personnel Committee- Rose Gifford stated that she was collecting
information in order to compose a job description for the manager.
This has been an on-going process. Rose went on to say that her
outside time was limited and that perhaps another might want to take
the chair. Jo Nance volunteered to do this. The committee was
directed to compose job descriptions for the manager and the three
new positions, to be distributed to the Directors at the end of
November. The subject is to be an agenda item for the December
meeting. The committee was urged to truly size up the position,
evaluate skill sets, and define the position.
Prior to the close of the meeting, based on the concerns set forth
by Village Residents during the Owners Forum portion of the meeting,
Manager Kroeger was directed to start attending the Town Board
Meetings on a monthly basis.
There being no further business, Chris Sigler moved to adjourn the
meeting. After a second by Jo Nance , the meeting adjourned at 11:20
PM.
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Manager's Attachment To The Minutes 10/14/04
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- Council President Ron Smith was
on hand to discuss the ongoing water project. He stated that he
expected the Town to hire an engineer to inspect the Grandview
Aquifer prior to the end of the month. He said the Town would be
looking for grants in the amount of $50,000/year for 20 years. All
the easements are in place and the town would sell the water between
Grandview and here. He went on to say that Patoka had done a great
job in supplying water and that a 30 year contract was still in
process and that he hoped that Patoka would keep pushing the water.
He thought it would take about 2 years to get on-line using EDA
money, and about 18 months if we paid for it ourselves.
The regular October Town council meeting has been postponed until
10/25/04.
Deputy Joey Brown has been hired as the new Town Marshall. Joey will
be hiring deputies. Norm Gerlach asked if the direction was toward
having more hours on duty. President Smith responded that it gets
down to numbers. We would need 6 full time officers to cover full
hours.
The question was asked about what impact the newly announced
expansion of Splashin ' Safari might have on the water supply.
President Smith replied that Will Koch was working on options.
OWNERS FORUM- Resident Mike Vaal asked if the new leaf mulch piles
would be “manned”. He was advised that the piles would not be manned
and that the piles were not for general dumping. The piles would be
for removing of leaf mulch only .
On a different note, Mike stated some concerns about the Town's
water project. He suggested that the CLV Board and residents should
be aware of water usage and the financial impact to the users. He
urged the Directors to look at the numbers. He also suggested that a
director or representative of the CLV Board should be present at all
Town Board meetings.
Shirley Blazey was is attendance to talk about a public early
warning system. This is a concern that has been presented to the
Town of Santa Claus a few times since around 1998. Shirley contends
that the siren in CLV across from the gatehouse gives a false sense
of security. It is not a tornado siren and should not be considered
as one. Shirley set up two companies to make presentations to the
Town Council, who in her opinion was not very receptive. She asked
the CLV Board to support her efforts. She thinks the system offered
by Federal Signal is the way to go. The system was designed for
emergency as well as non emergency use, and was designed to “cover”
the entire Town including the local schools. Don Vogel suggested
that the CLV Board pledge some money to this project over a three
year period.
Norm Gerlach stated that the schools have their own internal
systems.
Ken VanWinkle stated that most of the Board members were tapped out
on hours for committees and asked if Shirley would be willing to
head up the committee for the purpose she was suggesting. She would
also seat the committee. Shirley agreed to chair the committee.
It was suggested that local businesses may want to contribute as
well.
Nicki Nelson updated the Board on the upcoming Tour of Homes. She
said that everything was going along well. They had decided not to
sell food, but have simple complimentary cookies, coffee etc.
Tickets had just gone on sale, so she did not yet have a feel on how
sales were going.
Matt Sisley was present to follow up on the Polar Shores Addition
Drainage Project and Report. Midwestern Engineers is working on the
report, and is trying to complete it ahead of their original
mid-November completion date.
As a continuation of the drainage discussion, the subject of the
Culvert inspection program was raised. Manager Kroeger reported that
the maintenance staff was currently inspecting culverts, including
driveway culverts. President VanWinkle asked if we were leaving door
tags at homes where driveway culverts needed attention. This
procedure had been discussed at the September meeting. Manager
Kroeger had said they wanted to finish the initial inspection tour.
President VanWinkle stated the urgency of this program. Residents
are to care for their own driveway culverts and road swale ,
ensuring they are not blocked or filled in. Manager Kroeger was
directed to write up advisory tags while on site during the
inspection. When the Association finds culverts that are out of
compliance, we are to write a tag and leave it at the residence for
repair/maintenance within 15 days. Manager Kroeger was directed to
document the program, and train our maintenance staff to execute the
program. No homes will be built that do not follow the swale
guideline.
The CLV Covenants and Restrictions, Section 4, paragraph 4, state
that “within these easements, no structure, planting, or other
materials shall be placed or permitted to remain which may….obstruct
or retard the flow of water through drainage channels in the
easements”. And, “The easement area of each lot, and all
improvements in it, shall be maintained continuously by the owner of
the lot, except for those improvements for which a public authority
or utility is responsible.” Paragraph 15, states that the
Association has the right to take appropriate measures to prevent
erosion and collect those costs from the owner. All swales for
surface water drainage are located along the rear and side lot lines
shall be preserved and not obstructed.
The above information is to be sent out on the website , the
marquee, and the next newsletter.
MANAGER'S REPORT- Manager Kroeger read an e-mail he had sent to
President VanWinkle in which he stated that he was feeling
comfortable in hiring a webmaster and newsletter editor, within the
suggested parameters, but was having some problems with the activity
director. He felt there was not enough information to properly
pursue this. The personnel committee was directed to write a job
description for the three positions.
Director Jo Nance will sit on this committee.
Bowen Engineering had been in to inspect the culverts of concern
(noted in 9/04 meeting) along South Melchior Drive. Their analysis
was that the part of the culvert under the road was in good shape,
but that the sections of culverts outside the roadbed were in need
of attention. One immediately. Manager Kroeger said that he would
have bids for this work by the November meeting.
Manager Kroeger advised the Board that all of the 14 action items
from the August 2, 2004 drainage meeting had been completed with the
exception of meeting with the contractors who build homes in the
Village. The item is awaiting passage of the revised building
guidelines before holding the meeting.
As we get closer to closing operations on the Kostuck residence on
Tinsel, we find that we have run into one more barrier. Mr. Kostuck
never recorded the deed in his name. So now we have a few more
things to do before we can attain the property.
The road paving/repairs are about done for the year. We are in
contact with a company to come and stripe the roads.
The situation with the bright light shining across Lake Holly is
remedied.
Manager Kroeger showed a work estimate to the Board for a ditch
repair on a member's property. The member was asking for assistance
with the project. The Board replied that this work is on private
property and was the member's responsibility.
Manager Kroeger also advised the Board of request for a yard shed,
which had been denied, stating that the request had come from the
Lakeview neighborhood and there are no Covenants there. None of the
Directors changed their position.
The maintenance team is prepared to start the leaf collection the
week of the October 18 th , weather permitting. He asked the
Directors to advise anybody that they spoke to about this, to please
rake their leaves to within six feet of the road. At this time, we
do not know how long it will take to accomplish the project, so we
do not have a set schedule. We will be keeping track of time spent,
so we hope to be able to create a scheduled program by the spring
pick up.
NEW BUSINESS- Yard Sale Review Manager Kroeger reported his personal
comments on the Yard Sale. He thought things had gone well but
thought that in order to improve in the future that gate helpers
needed to stay longer, that the traffic control at the highway
needed to start earlier, and that food being sold should be sold at
the Rec Center or Holly Park. As one of the organizers, Ann Vogel
reported her thoughts were similar. There was some question as to
opening the sale to Village residents on Friday night, and invited
guests. Manager Kroeger was instructed to start a “Yard Sale” file
so that we could use this information as reference in the future.
Employee Benefits - Manager Kroeger passed out a sheet that showed
company benefits supplied to full time employees. President
VanWinkle directed to look at other Associations' benefits packages,
and ascertain where the benchmark is, and where we stand against it.
He was also instructed to look into the cost/feasibility of
contracting out gate officers rather than employing them.
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Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
September 9, 2004
President Ken Van Winkle called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
He noted that a quorum was present and that the meeting was being
taped.
Directors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach , Rose Gifford,
Milton Pledger , Chris Sigler , Ken Van Winkle , and Don Vogel.
MINUTES- There were five sets of minutes to approve. The minutes
from the 8/12/04 regular meeting were reviewed. A motion to accept
the minutes as presented was made by Elva Scholebo . These minutes
were passed unanimously after a second by Norm Gerlach .
The minutes from the August 17, 2004 special meeting were reviewed.
A motion to accept the minutes as presented was made by Elva
Scholebo and then seconded by Don Vogel. The minutes passed
unanimously.
The minutes from the August 17, 2004 special meeting, #2, were
presented. Norm Gerlach moved to accept the minutes. After a second
by Don Vogel, the minutes passed unanimously.
The minutes from the August 17, 2004 Executive Meeting were
reviewed. The minutes were unanimously approved after a motion by
Keith Blair, and a second by Don Vogel.
The minutes from the August 9, 2004 executive meeting were reviewed.
Don Vogel moved to accept the minutes. Elva Scholebo seconded the
motion, which was unanimously approved.
TREASURER'S REPORT- Elva Scholebo gave the treasurer's report. She
noted that a CD at Old National Bank had become due. She and Manager
Kroeger will handle reinvestment.
She then compared income and costs between 2003 and 2004. Income to
date for 2004 is $618,000.00 compared to $628,300.00 for the same
period a year ago. At this time we are only 2.5% short of our
projected annual income. Expenses to date in 2004 are $322,200.00.
Expenses through August of 2003 were $332,353.00.
She stated that she would like to call a meeting of the budget
committee for September 23, 2004, 6:00 PM at the office. She also
requested an executive meeting for September 30, 2004 to review the
proposed budget prior to the next scheduled Board meeting. Committee
members were to check their calendars. Elva asked Board members to
submit their budget considerations.
Elva gave the delinquent report.
The amount delinquent in 9/2004 was $157,934.
The amount delinquent in 8/2004 was $160,335.
The amount outstanding under $600.00 is $30,485.00 (19% of total)
The amount outstanding under between $600.00 and $1000.00 is
$47,685.00 (30% of total) The amount outstanding over $1000.00 is
$79,764.00 (51% of total)
Quantity of Lots delinquent 180 (184 in 8/04)
Elva stated that since we had signed an agreement with Medical &
Professional Collection Services, we should begin turning over
delinquent accounts to them. She suggested that she and Manager
Kroeger compose one more letter advising delinquent property owners
that their account, if left unpaid, would be turned over to our
collection agency.
Keith Blair stated that he thought we should be very careful in the
way we handle this. He thinks there is some middle ground,
particularly with regards to neighborhoods one and two.
Chris Sigler stated adamantly that he thought letters should go to
all accounts delinquent over one year, regardless of neighborhood.
It was decided that Mark and Elva would compose the letter to be
sent to delinquent accounts other than the first and second
neighborhoods. That discussion is to be continued at the October
meeting.
Norm Gerlach moved to accept the Treasurer's Report as submitted.
After a second by Milton Pledger , the report was unanimously
approved.
OWNERS FORUM- See Manager's Attachment
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- See Manager's Attachment
OLD BUSINESS- Covenants & Restrictions Update- Don Vogel updated the
Board on the progress of the Covenants and Restrictions voting. He
stated that the committee had had two meetings and a “call-a- thon ”
in order to pursue votes. He went on to say that personal contact
was productive and that in excess of 40 affirmative votes had been
received in just a few days. We currently have well over 500
affirmative votes. He suggested that our goal should be at least
1000 votes. 950 votes is the minimum required. Don reported that CLV
owns 6 lots that could be voted. He then made a motion that the
Board vote these six CLV lots in the affirmative to amend the
Covenants and Restrictions. Milton Pledger seconded the motion. The
vote showed seven “ayes” and one abstention by Norm Gerlach .
Manager Kroeger was directed to contact our insurance company about
setting up Keith Blair, Milton Pledger , Elva Scholebo , and Ken Van
Winkle as Notaries.
Don said that another “call-a- thon ” was scheduled for Tuesday,
September 14, 2004 from 6:00-8:00PM.
Polar Shores Drainage Update- See Manager's Attachment
NEW BUSINESS- Activities Director- See Manager's Attachment
Culvert Inspection Program- See Manager's Attachment
South Melchior Culverts- Manager Kroeger reported that 3 medium to
large concrete culverts under South Melchior Drive were in need of
replacement. He stated that there was some concern for integrity of
the road based on visible evidence. There was some question as to
the condition of the roadbed because video review had been
inconclusive. He went on to say that he had obtained two bids to
replace these culverts by boring in replacement culverts rather than
excavating and replacing the existing. This method was suggested due
to the depth of the culverts and amount of time the road would be
closed from open excavation. After discussion, Elva moved to accept
the lower bid and proceed with the work. After additional
discussion, it was decided, because the condition of the roadbed is
in question, that we hire an engineer to review the road situation
prior to proceeding with the work. Elva withdrew her motion and
Manager Kroeger was directed to hire an engineer to give a
professional assessment.
Replacement Director- President Van Winkle read off the names of the
seven applicants for the CLV Board position and passed around the
resumes. The applicants were Shirley Blazey , Ray Justak , Jo Nance
, Rex Stevens, Ted Swartzbaugh , Mike Vaal , and Steve Webb. Each
applicant was discussed and it was suggested by Don Vogel that
perhaps we should look at specific areas to help ensure
representation. Rose stated she would vote for the best candidate
regardless of where they live. President Van Winkle asked if perhaps
a special meeting was in order to handle this appointment. After
additional discussion and last thoughts, Elva Scholebo moved to
appoint Jo Nance to the Board in Philip Koch's position. This was
seconded by Chris Sigler and unanimously approved. Manager Kroeger
was instructed to write a letter to all the applicants informing
them of this decision, thanking them for applying, and encouraging
them to run for a Board seat next June.
COMMITTEE REPORTS- Elva Scholebo asked the Budget Committee to meet
to review a draft of the budget on September 23 rd , followed by an
executive meeting to review the committee's proposal on the 30 th of
September.
Roads Committee- Manager Kroeger reported that he had two bids for
road repair for this fall. The bid process was handled a little
differently this time in that we considered unit pricing rather than
pricing for specific locations. Rudolph submitted the best price and
their work is a known quantity. Rose Gifford moved to accept the
Rudolph bid as submitted. Elva Scholebo seconded the motion. Don
Vogel asked about the criteria for setting priorities. Manager
Kroeger explained that the three priorities were condition of road,
degree of use of the road, and to some degree, the location of the
road. The motion then passed unanimously.
Nominating Committee- Norm Gerlach offered to take the chair of this
committee.
Rules and Regulations- Norm Gerlach stated that he needed one more
person to sit on the committee and would approach Ted Swartzbaugh
about this. A meeting was scheduled for September 13 th , 2004.
Covenants and Restrictions – Updated earlier in the meeting.
Personnel Committee- Rose Gifford stated that she had sent out a
questionnaire asking for the Board's input as to the duties of the
Manager. She had not received much response, so she was going to
send it out again. She said she would schedule a meeting soon.
President Van Winkle repeated his concern that our employees do not
have a list of skill sets or job descriptions. The job descriptions
are to start with the manager.
By-Laws Committee- Is not actively sitting at this time.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
10:30PM on a motion by Elva Scholebo and a second by Chris Sigler .
Respectfully Submitted,
Ken Van Winkle /President
Christmas Lake Village
Board of Directors
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Manager's Attachment To The Minutes
September 9, 2004
OWNERS FORUM- Ted Swartzbaugh was present and stated, that in his
opinion, the utility companies and housing contractors that work in
the Village do not always adequately repair road cuts and/or
excavation. After some discussion about this problem, it was decided
that Don Vogel and Manager Kroeger would draft a letter to these
companies advising them that they would need to request a permit
anytime that a road was to be cut. There would be set standards for
the quality and appearance of the road repair.
Nicki Nelson was on hand to present the monthly update on the Tour
of Homes. Nicki stated that they would have someone at the gate to
assist the gate officer in taking down license plate numbers,
particularly in the early part of the day. She said that she did not
think that there would be a huge rush of people at the opening of
the tour as there is with the garage sale. She also stated that
there would be at least one person at each home to assist with
parking and courtesy. She passed out a tri -fold advertising sheet
for the event announcing that tickets would go on sale October 4 th
, 2004. Visitors are to show their Tour of Homes ticket to the gate
officer for entry. Keith Blair suggested a courtesy call to
neighbors of the houses on the tour advising them of the event. On
the tour are the Rich & Debbie Kasten home, Doug and Lori Collins
home, Dave & Deann Siegel home, Ed & Joe Ann Rinehart home, and the
Ken & Camy Pruss home. All CLV members are invited to call Nicki
Nelson at 544-2550 for tickets or general information.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- Manager Kroeger reported that he had spoken to
Town Board President Ron Smith about a Town Representative to attend
CLV Board meetings. Ron had indicated that the Council members would
start attending on a rotating basis beginning in October. There was
no report from the Town for September. The Board suggested to
Manager Kroeger that he approach President Smith and ask if the Town
Council would like for CLV to send a representative to their
meetings.
MANAGER'S REPORT-
• New landscaping around the empty planting areas at the gatehouse
is scheduled to be installed on September 21 st by the CLV Garden
Club and members of our maintenance staff.
• Regarding the Kostuck situation on Tinsel Drive, we are now in a
position to request the sale of the property into third party hands
by way of a Sheriff's sale.
• Our attorney advises us that we should not request residents to
remove any campaign signs that are under 5 square feet in size.
• The lake patrolman and as many as three lifeguards will not be
back next summer. We will be recruiting new lifeguards and a lake
patrolman early in 2005.
• The paperwork for legal action against landlord Ralph Wessell and
tenant Helen DuPont has been filed with the court. This particular
property has been the subject of much attention for the last several
months.
• Per direction of the Board, Manager Kroeger wrote a letter to the
primary parties that are involved on the dusk-to-dawn light issue on
Lake Holly. The letter asked the parties to make every effort to
work on a neighborly solution. A solution is actively being pursued.
• Bids to install a new roof on the Shelter house at Holly Park were
presented. President Van Winkle suggested that rather than simply
replace the roof, we should consider a “makeover” for the shelter
house. It was decided that a newly packaged shelter house was to be
investigated by the budget committee.
Ron Smith had talked to three Board members regarding some building
deposits that were being withheld. The Board members had toured the
sites with Smith to review the situation. Manager Kroeger asked for
their assessment. After their report, and some discussion, it was
decided to retain the deposit on the Smith built home on Rudolph
Lane, to ask Smith Homes to dig the road swale at the Nelson home
2-3” deeper, dropping the drain accordingly, and to ask Smith Homes
to remove the yard culvert at the new construction on Star Drive,
leaving an open, mowable ditch. This ditch to help prevent heavy
rain runoff from crossing Star Drive.
President Van Winkle stated that he thought that the CLV Website was
stagnant and not well maintained, and that the CLV Newsletter was
not being distributed as decided and that some of the departments
that were to have been in the newsletter, have not been there. A
list of newcomers is needed as well a list of local services to
assist newcomers to find the things they need. He questioned whether
our office staff had the skill sets to maintain a web site and a
newsletter. He stated that we needed a webmaster, and a newsletter
editor. Manager Kroeger was directed to put this information on the
marquee, web site, and upcoming newsletter.
Don Vogel suggested that we need to develop a proactive program for
street lights, identify dump sites for leaves that will be picked up
this fall, clean up and organize a storage area for Festival of
Lights displays, and purchase new signs for Holly Park. (Note: the
signs have been purchased already)
POLAR SHORES UPDATE- Manager Kroeger reported that a walk through of
the Polar Shores Addition neighborhood was held on August 2, 2004.
Two representatives from Midwestern Engineers, some Directors, Ted
Swartzbaugh , and several neighborhood residents attended. Manager
Kroeger had spoken with Midwestern Engineers who had indicated that
they thought the walk through was very good, that Midwestern knew
what we wanted, and that the ball was in their court. They were not
waiting for us to do anything at this time. Midwestern will try to
complete the survey prior to their expected completion date of mid
November. During subsequent discussion of this issue, Manager
Kroeger was reminded of the 14 action items related to this and
directed to forward an update to the Board. Norm Gerlach noted that
holding a meeting with homebuilders should wait until after the
Rules and Regulations Committee meets and any proposed changes are
approved. It was further suggested that we could begin watching and
reviewing culverts immediately, apart from the Culvert Inspection
Program, and begin work on obvious violations/problems.
ACTIVITY DIRECTOR- This subject had been last visited at the
December 2003 meeting. A notice had appeared in the newsletter
subsequent to that meeting stating that we were pursuing interested
parties. Virtually no response was forthcoming. However, during
discussion, it became evident that there is a feeling that an
activities director would help revive the feeling of community in
the Village, and that the general view was that an activities
director was a good thing. There was questions as to how an
activities director might operate…pursue on a “per event” basis, or
perhaps a part time employee. President Van Winkle stated this was
another situation for the Personnel Committee to develop a skill set
and the roll of new positions. The question of hiring was ultimately
left in the hands of the budget committee, which was to look into
placing this position into the 2005 budget package.
CULVERT INSPECTION PROGRAM- Manager Kroeger outlined the proposed
culvert inspection program. The program calls for periodic culvert
inspections, up to four times a year, plus routine viewing, and in
some cases, inspection before, during, and after rain events. All
culverts on Association owned and privately owned property, have
been cataloged for this purpose. A spreadsheet shows the size, type
and frequency of inspection. Corresponding maps show the location of
each culvert. The CLV maintenance staff will facilitate these
inspections beginning in October of this year. The goal of this
ongoing project is to maintain adequate water flow through all
Village culverts. It was suggested that as crews are making these
inspections, they should have a form letter, or a door tag, that
they can leave at the site of private culverts that need
improvement. The resident/member, after making the repair, contacts
the office to inspect and sign off that the work has been done. For
example, a house on the corner of Winter and Sleigh Bell has
landscaping that is growing over each end of the driveway culvert.
This impedes the flow of water in and out of the culvert. This needs
to be trimmed and maintained. This is a meticulous program to
enhance our community and promote proper drainage in all areas.
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August 17, 2004
President Van Winkle called the meeting to order
at 8:05 PM.
He noted that a quorum was present and that the meeting was being
taped.
Directors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach , Rose Gifford,
Milton Pledger , Elva Scholebo , Chris Sigler , Ken Van Winkle ,
and Don Vogel.
Philip Koch was absent.
The sole purpose of the meeting was to dismiss or retain Director
Koch based on excessive absences over an extended period of time.
Don Vogel made a motion to dismiss Philip Koch as a member of the
Board of Directors because of his lack of attendance at numerous
Board meetings.
Elva Scholebo seconded the motion.
Keith Blair noted that this issue has previously been before the
Board.
Don Vogel stated that the Board has nine members to serve the
Village, and there are others that will be active and
contributory.
There being no further discussion, President Van Winkle called for
a vote, which was unanimously in favor of dismissing Director
Koch.
President Van Winkle will write a letter to Philip Koch informing
him of the Board's decision.
The meeting adjourned at 8:15 PM on a motion by Elva Scholebo ,
and a second by Don Vogel.
Respectfully Submitted,
Ken Van Winkle
President/Christmas Lake Village
Board of Directors
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Ken Van Winkle called the meeting to order at 5:30 PM. He noted
that a quorum was present, and because this was to be a walking tour
of parts of the Polar Shores Addition, the meeting was not taped.
D irectors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach , Rose Gifford,
Elva Scholebo , Ken Van Winkle , and Don Vogel.
Philip Koch, Milton Pledger , and Chris Sigler were absent.
Members present were Chad Bailey, Matt Sisley , Ted Swartzbaugh ,
and Emerson Tornatta .
The purpose of the meeting was to walk the effected area and to look
at swales , culverts, and any other items that may be adding to the
drainage concerns in that area.
There were several examples (Rosbottom, Winkler, Koch, Vinson, and
Wahl ) of culverts being installed in yards, and inadequate swales
left to catch yard runoff, allowing water to run across the road. In
many cases, this water ran directly to the high water areas.
The directors looked at the situation and asked numerous questions
about swales , culverts, ditches etc.
Some of the highlights, conclusions, and ideas of the walk through
included:
• Divert to, and keep water on the west side of Winter to that side
of the street
• Keep water to the East of Star Drive on that side. This would
include a continuous ditch along that entire side of the road
requiring Cochenour , Smith, and Finecy to open their road ditches.
• A swale at the common property line between the lots facing Star
Dr. and those facing Winter Lane is indicated.
• We need to be stringent with new construction and allow no
violations of their drainage plans.
• Asking a representative of Midwestern Engineers to do a
walkthrough with us (Kroeger, Swartzbaugh , 2 Directors) prior to
updating the 2000 drainage study.
• Homeowners should keep their culverts clean, open, and
unobstructed. The Winkler culvert at Winter & Sleigh Bell is almost
completely obstructed by landscaping.
• Homeowners must have a culvert in the driveway, a road swale , and
back and side swales as needed.
• We need to further pursue a solution to the Bailey situation.
• Even with the above done, how will water escape over the golf
course, considering the lay of the land?
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 7:30 PM on a motion by
Elva Scholebo and a second by Rose Gifford.
Respectfully Submitted
Ken Van Winkle
President, Board of Directors
Christmas Lake Village
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Minutes Christmas Lake Village Board of Directors
August 12, 2004
CALL TO ORDER/QUORUM- The meeting was called to order by Ken Van
Winkle at 6:00 PM. He noted that a quorum was present and that the
meeting was being taped.
Directors present were Keith Blair, Norm Gerlach , Rose Gifford,
Milton Pledger , Chris Sigler , Ken Van Winkle , and Don Vogel
Philip Koch and Elva Scholebo were absent.
MINUTES- The Board reviewed the minutes from the regular meeting in
July. Don Vogel announced that the Association would not have to pay
sales tax on the new leaf vacuum as reported in the minutes. At the
time of the meeting, it was thought that we would need to pay this
tax. Rose Gifford moved to accept the minutes as presented. Don
Vogel seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
The Board then reviewed the minutes from the special meeting that
was held 8/2/04. After review, Don Vogel moved to accept the minutes
as submitted. Keith Blair seconded the motion which passed
unanimously.
TREASURER'S REPORT- Manager Kroeger gave the Treasurer's Report. He
noted that $550,567.00 (99%) of the budgeted income from maintenance
fees had been received. This compared to 98% in budgeted income at
this time a year ago. He reported that miscellaneous income showed a
decrease of approximately $16,000.00 from a year ago. He
investigated and found that we had received some $16,000.00 from the
Kostuck action early in 2003. This also accounts for the $16,000.00
difference in total income between 2003/2004.
Manager Kroeger reported that a 36 month CD at the Old National Bank
in Rockport was set to come due on September 9, 2004. He asked for
suggestions from the Board on what to do with this money…a new CD,
set aside for possible drainage work or other options. It was noted
that Old National currently has a program that allows an “out” with
no fee on certain accounts. Manager Kroeger was directed to look
into this.
It was also reported that a line item for “depreciation” had
errantly appeared as an administrative expense in the June 2004
Budget Statement. This artificially inflated the statement by
$47,000.00. The error was corrected on the July 2004 statement.
The delinquent report was reviewed.
Amount delinquent 8/2004 160,335.00 (includes 21,980.00 LILCO & Wahl
Invest.)
Amount delinquent 7/2004 150,456.00
Outstanding under $600.00 30,780.00 (19%) (previous two years)
Outstanding $600.00-1000.00 50,098.00 (31%) (reflects 3 years
delinquent)
Outstanding over $1000.00 79,457.00 (50%) (reflects on excess of
three years delinquent including LILCO 6852.00 and Wahl Invest.
15,128.00)
Quantity of Lots Delinquent 184 (189 in 7/04)
There being no questions, Don Vogel moved to accept the Treasurer's
report which was seconded by Keith Blair and passed unanimously.
OWNERS FORUM- See Manager's Attachment
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- See Manager's Attachment
OLD BUSINESS
COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS UPDATE- Manager Kroeger reported on the
Covenants and Restrictions votes that had been cast since the May
2004 meeting. Only 8 ballots, all voting yes to the new covenants,
had been received. He noted that we are short approximately 470
votes of passing the proposal. Manager Kroeger also indicated that
he had spoken to Attorney Fritts who had indicated that a final
closing date on the election should be established. Chris Sigler
moved to designate December 31, 2004 as the closing date for the
election. This was passed unanimously after a second by Don Vogel.
Don Vogel noted that his committee would begin earnest efforts to
obtain the required votes. Manager Kroeger was directed to give Don
an updated list of who had voted.
COLLECTION AGENT- Following some general discussion, Don Vogel moved
to sign with Medical and Professional Collection Services to handle
the collection of selected delinquent accounts. The primary reason
for choice of MPCS over attorney Shaneyfelt was that MPCS had out of
state capabilities and their ability to impact one's credit rating.
Rose Gifford seconded the motion, which was unanimously approved.
POLAR SHORES ADDITION DRAINAGE UPDATE- The Board then reviewed the
Midwestern Engineers proposal to update the 2000 drainage study. Ted
Swartzbaugh commented that he thought that the Association should
get an engineering firm other than Midwestern Engineers involved in
our drainage program. His opinion was that Midwestern had been
making mistakes for 40 years, from the very planning of the Village,
and that some of the improvements we have made should have been
financed by Koch Development and/or Midwestern Engineers. After some
discussion, including points about questions in previous studies,
and concerns about the abilities of Midwestern, Don Vogel made a
motion to accept the Midwestern Engineers proposal to update the
study for $5000.00. Norm Gerlach seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously. The Board was cautioned to advise Midwestern of its
concerns in no uncertain terms. Midwestern has committed to
completing the study no later than mid-November.
Manager Kroeger called the Board's attention to the list of 14
actions items that had been devised following the special meeting of
8/2/04. He supplied a list of completed items that had been assigned
by the list. Copies of both are included. A copy of the completion
list was given to Polar Shores Addition representative Matt Sisley .
Manager Kroeger said he would make a copy of the 14 actions
available for Matt's review as well.
Manager Kroeger reported that it turns out that three of four lots
he thought might be available to create dry dams, will not be.
Manager Kroeger was instructed to contact the attorney regards the
possibility of invoking the right of eminent domain (through the
Town of Santa Claus) on some of these lots.
FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS UPDATE- See Manager's Attachment
NEW BUSINESS- See Manager's Attachment
Don Vogel stated that his wife had taken an interest in organizing a
Village wide garage sale. She was unable to attend the meeting due
to a Festival of Lights meeting that night. Don moved to allow the
gates to be opened for a CLV garage sale on Saturday, September 18,
2004 from 8:00AM-2:00PM. After a second by Milton Pledger , the
motion was passed unanimously. Manager Kroeger was directed to work
with the planning team for logistics.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 PM on a motion by Don Vogel and a
second by Norm Gerlach .
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MANAGER'S ATTACHMENT TO THE MINUTES
August 12, 2004
Mark Kroeger read a statement from the organizing group of the
Tour of Homes. The reported stated that the organizers had been
advised that at one time a successful Tour of Homes had raised
nearly $7000.00. Tickets sold for $6.00 each with about 1150
attendees. Manager Kroeger was directed to write a letter to the
Tour of Homes making sure they were aware of the Board's
expectations.
Ken Blair was on hand to talk about his dusk to dawn light.
Complaints about the light shining off the water had been received
at previous meetings. Ken stated he had the light for safety and
security reasons. He also stated that he had received permission to
install the light from a previous CLV Board. Don Vogel suggested
that Ken replace the existing bulb with a sodium lamp which is not
as bright. Ken stated he would be willing to do consider this if the
neighbors would contribute to the cost of the light. Manager Kroeger
was directed to write to both parties and try to work this out.
John Schilling was present to update the Board on the condition of
the home across the street that has been ill-kept. He read copies of
the letters that had been sent to the tenant and the landlord by the
CLV attorney, and said that there had been effort and some
improvement. John reported that the old truck is still there and
that it is becoming a trash bin. Manager Kroeger was instructed to
contact Attorney Shaneyfelt to begin legal proceedings immediately.
Manager Kroeger was also instructed to write a letter to all
landlords indicating that we will enforce Covenants & Restrictions.
He was also instructed to research how renters receive a copy of the
Covenants and Restrictions.
It was suggested that landlords and tenants sign a form that says
they have read and will follow the Covenants.
TOWN REPRESENTATIVE- There was no Town representative on hand.
Manager Kroeger will approach the Town about providing a
representative to Board meetings.
FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS UPDATE-Manager Kroeger report that about half of
the neighborhoods had already held their first meeting to talk about
a rejuvenated Festival of Lights. Most of the meetings had been well
attended. Some were not. Information from all the meetings would be
discussed at the September meeting. Lots of ideas had come from the
meetings. Ideas from holding the Festival every third year to
changing the route.
NEW BUSINESS- Mark Kroeger reported on the newsletter. He indicated
that he expected the summer edition to be mailed the next day. He
also said that annual publication dates for the future would be the
first of March, June September, and December. He indicated that the
newsletter would be set up in a regular template form, expand from
four to six pages, and include articles/stories from guest writers,
a “Message From The President/Manager/Board/Garden Club/Optimist
Club” column, a “Did You Know?” column, and other features. Manager
Kroeger said he expected to be working with the Heritage Hills
journalism department for some of this. Parties interested in
writing for the newsletter are encouraged to contact the office.
President Van Winkle asked what happened to the Personnel Committee.
He noted that it had gone dormant since Troy Reinhart had resigned
his position on the Board. New chair of the committee, Rose Gifford,
stated that she would put together a meeting of the committee. Ken
commented on the urgency of defining the roles and responsibilities
of our critical positions. Each director was requested to e-mail in
at least 5 important things that the manager should do.
President Van Winkle had stated earlier in the evening, that he
thought it advisable for the Board to meet and walk the areas of
Polar Shores Addition that were subject to flooding. A special
meeting was called for Tuesday, 8/17/04, 5:30 PM starting at the Van
Winkle driveway to do this.
Additionally, some Directors had commented about absences Director
Philip Koch. An executive meeting was called to immediately follow
the 8/17/04 special meeting to discuss this situation.
CHRISTMAS LAKE VILLAGE
DRAINAGE PROJECT
POLAR SHORES ADDITION
WHAT
WHO
HOW
BY WHEN
* Correct the inaccuracies in the Midwest
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Engineer Study. |
Midwest | Mark to work w/ them.
August 12, 2004
* Upate the study re. all the new homes and
construction since 2000. Also, assume that
all "buildable" lots has an average house
located on it.
Midwest
Mark to work w/ them.
12-Aug
* Fix the damaged/crushed driveway pipe at
the new Smith home on Star Drive.
Ron Smith
Mark to work w/ him.
31-Aug
* Report on what of the Midwest Engineer
Study has been completed.
Midwest
Mark to work w/ them.
12-Aug
* Have Midwest Engineer do a narrative
review of the study w/ the Board.
Midwest
Mark will arrange the meeting.
9-Aug
* Address the Ward Home 30 " pipe that is
not accounted for as well as the various
small drain pipes in the area.
Mark
Physical site review
12-Aug
* Place a moratorium on Polar Shores
Addition spec. home construction.
Mark
Check w/ Attorney.
6-Aug
* Find out what the building inspectors' role
is in the drainage plan that is to be submitted
with a new home construction plan.
Mark
Document and submit to Board
6-Aug
* Develop a Drain Pipe Inspection Schedule
Mark
Develop and document a
31-Aug
checklist and schedule.
* Hold a meeting w/ builders to enforce our
(the board's) position on building codes.
Mark
Work w/ Rules and Regs Comm.
31-Aug
* Document the available lots in Polar Shores
Addition including those that the County has.
Mark
Email listing to Board
6-Aug
* Post the Polar Shores Addition drainage
progress updates to the CLV Web site.
Mark
Weekly Updates
16-Aug
* Place a silt fence on the Smith spec.
property on Star Drive.
Ron Smith
Mark to advise him.
4-Aug
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Since the special meeting of 8/2/04, the following has been done:
• Inaccuracies of the 2000 MEI study were revised in 11/2000, and
1/2001
1. One undersized pipe on Star Dr, one on Tinsel
• The crushed pipe was inspected and does not appear crushed to me
• The study advised four specific areas of ground work. 3 were
completed.
• The Board held an executive session on 8/9/04 wherein a
representative of MEI discussed the original study, made some verbal
recommendations, and agreed to provide a price to update the study.
• The revised maps show the 30” culvert near the Ward home that was
missing on original maps.
• Our attorney advises us not to place a moratorium on building in
Polar Shores Addition.
• We have checked with the Santa Claus building inspector. There is
no specific drainage code that effects Christmas Lake Village.
However, the Rules and Regs committee will seat soon, and work on
our building guidelines. A slope advisory will be reviewed as an
amendment to the guidelines.
• Manager Kroeger and the Maintenance foreman are working on a drain
pipe inspection schedule which locates all under road culverts and
creates a time table for their inspection.
• A list has been made that shows lots available in Polar Shores
Addition. One or more of these lots may be available to assist with
this project.
• A place for progress updates has been set aside in the CLV website
.
• A silt fence has been placed on the empty lot facing Winter Ave
which drains toward Star Drive.
Respectfully Submitted
Ken Van Winkle
President/Board of Directors
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The meeting was called to order by President Ken VanWinkle at
6:00 PM . He stated that a quorum was present and that the meeting
was being taped. Board members present were Keith Blair, Norm
Gerlach, Rose Gifford, Elva Scholebo,
Ken VanWinkle, and Don Vogel.
Absent were Philip Koch, Milton Pledger, and Chris Sigler.
President VanWinkle noted that the only item on the agenda was the
drainage situation in the ninth neighborhood. He stated that member
Matt Sisley had been appointed to speak for the group. Area members
present were Lisa Cochenour, Matt & Heather Sisley, Teresa Jester,
Chris Glenn, Frank Howard, Emerson & Sherri Tornatta , Chad Bailey,
and Matt Snively.
Matt showed a home made video tape of the amount of water flowing
through their Star Drive area on 25 May, '04 . Matt Snively also
showed a tape of the Tinsel/Angel area on the same date.
Matt made several points of concern:
• The Midwestern study had been made in 2000, and that numerous
homes had been built since then.
• The study had mentioned impound ponds, but that none were ever
constructed.
• The Midwestern Engineering study had not been followed to a “T”
• That Midwestern Engineers should have been on hand to inspect the
program while it was in progress.
• There were mistakes in the study including a 30” culvert near the
Ward home that was not reflected on the maps and several of the
culverts shown were incorrect in dimension.
• How many impound ponds we would need to sufficiently slow the
water,
• How the Association would handle maintenance of its culvert
inlets.
• We need the impound ponds NOW.
• Why silt fences are not uniformly in use.
• The culvert in front of the new construction on Star Drive was
crushed and had been incorrectly installed.
• New Board members were not aware of this study.
• The area residents had waited a long, long time and the program
was incomplete, and the problem was worse.
• We must bring in professionals to oversee the work.
• Open ditches will not take care of the problem-we must slow it
down.
• They were looking into a neighborhood fix. Everything is connected
together
• There were some “ugly” things in the past. We need to look
forward, and get things done.
The Board was asked to address these concerns
• Check the Midwestern study for accuracy
• Make sure of what builders are doing
• Look at a complete area fix, not just a patch job
• Put some urgency into the program
• Update the Midwestern study to today's situation
• Look into the retention ponds immediately
Ken VanWinkle questioned what, if any, responsibility for grading
the building inspector has. Manager Kroeger replied that he would
have to look into it.
Don Vogel asked if Koch Development might be sending additional
water our way.
Though Matt Sisley was the main speaker, all members present
received their opportunity to speak.
A concern was stated over the possibility of even getting out of the
house the way it was surrounded by water and what could happen to
children in this situation.
It was suggested to place a moratorium on building in the 9 th
neighborhood until the problem was corrected.
The heavy costs of home repairs from water was noted. One resident
had to bring in a restoration company.
At this time, President VanWinkle summed up the meeting:
• All in the room see a problem
• All in the room are committed to fix the problem
• What is the fix
• What are the costs
• Who is obligated to fix what
President VanWinkle asked for the benefit of the doubt for time and
to work in small groups.
The attendees asked if a time line could be made, and if they could
be kept in the loop and updated frequently.
The people from the 9 th neighborhood left at this time.
The Board members present stayed and discussed the meeting and a
plan of action. President VanWinkle read off 13 steps that he had
formulated during the meeting which were individually discussed. He
said that a formal list of these steps with completion dates would
be e-mailed to the Directors and manager the next day. The actions
included:
• Correct any inaccuracies in the Midwestern study
• Update the 2000 Midwestern study to include new and anticipated
construction
• Inspect the crushed culvert at the new construction on Star Drive
• Report on what parts of the Midwestern Study had been completed
• Have a Midwestern representative meet with the Board in Executive
session to review the study
• Address the 30” pipe near the Ward home question
• Check with the attorney about the possibility of placing a
moratorium on new building in that neighborhood
• Ascertain what the building inspector's role is in inspecting
drainage plans
• Hold a meeting with the builders to enforce the Board's position
on our building codes.
• Document the available lots, including county owned, in the Polar
Shores Addition.
• Post the Polar Shores Addition drainage progress updates in the
CLV website.
• Place a silt fence on the spec property on Winter Lane.
The Board was in agreement that these were reasonable and necessary
items.
At this time ( 8:45PM ), the meeting adjourned on a motion by Norm
Gerlach, and a second by Don Vogel.
Respectfully Submitted
Ken VanWinkle
President/Christmas Lake Village
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